RNDDUDE
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| 10/22/2013 10:38 AM |
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Love the "top 30, tops" comment
http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/10/news/lemond-armstrong-manipulated-the-cancer-community_306235 |
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| Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistant one. -Albert Einstein |
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stronz
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| 10/22/2013 10:42 AM |
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| Karma at its very very best |
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Yo Mike
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| 10/22/2013 10:50 AM |
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/AC: And so, when Lance Armstrong says, look, everybody was doing this. I was just trying to even the playing field?
GL: He wasn’t. He couldn’t race on a level playing field. That’s why he bribed the governing body.
AC: What do you think should happen to him now?
GL: This is not a sporting infraction. This is criminal.
AC: You think he should go to jail?
GL: I do, yes. Yes./
It was criminal, and the biggest fraud in cycling, and possibly all sport.
Maybe Netflix can do a series on LA in the Big House, maybe call it 'Orange Is The New Yellow' |
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stronz
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| 10/22/2013 12:14 PM |
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| Now i think Greg has every right to stick a fork in the pig as many times as he wants. Lord knows he suffered greatly at the hands of the Armstrong Ponzi scheme. But -- if it turns out that GL himself engaged in some leveling of the field, it certainly makes for one very smelly pile of $hit. |
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zootracer
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| 10/22/2013 12:35 PM |
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| I watched the interview online. The whole thing was only 5 minutes. I've always respected LeMond as a cyclist. I think he just needs to let this thing alone. He obviously does not like Armstrong, never has, never will. go back to your bike business and stay out of it. |
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jmdirt
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| 10/22/2013 02:20 PM |
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This thread should be in the dark side but...
Let's not forget that GL got shot in the gut yet came back to win the TdF against guys who were heavy dopers (maybe not epo yet but all of the other candy) and IV junkies.
The BM comparison is a good one. |
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Keith Richards
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| 10/22/2013 03:08 PM |
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Posted By Justin jmdirt on 10/22/2013 02:20 PM
This thread should be in the dark side but...
Let's not forget that GL got shot in the gut yet came back to win the TdF against guys who were heavy dopers (maybe not epo yet but all of the other candy) and IV junkies.
Greg's baseline form was consistent. He was a grand tour winner before the accident and he was afterward, unlike Mr. -7. |
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It is his word versus ours. We like our word. We like where we stand and we like our credibility."--Lance Armstrong. |
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jmdirt
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| 10/22/2013 03:58 PM |
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| GL sure got back to that "baseline" quickly after near death though. |
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jrt1045
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| 10/22/2013 04:45 PM |
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hmmmm, the uniballer's advance team used to use the same innuendo to try and paint the same picture about Greg? Face it, he's clean
IMHO LeMond has earned the right to kick the Livestrong carcass for many years |
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Keith Richards
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| 10/22/2013 05:02 PM |
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Posted By jmdirt on 10/22/2013 03:58 PM
GL sure got back to that "baseline" quickly after near death though.
Two years is not that quick my brother. And to add to that...when somebody, anybody in the cycling world implicates Greg in any way I will reconsider my stance on him.
Until then...it is still his world. |
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It is his word versus ours. We like our word. We like where we stand and we like our credibility."--Lance Armstrong. |
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jmdirt
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| 10/22/2013 05:34 PM |
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| Uhm, I believe that several boys from "back in the day" have said that if GL was indeed clean, he was the only one. Was he so talented and/or had such a high moral compass that he was the only one who wasn't doing the juice of the day? Was it Parkin who said "it wasn't doping, it was survival"? It would be cool if GL didn't stick a needle in his skin but the idea is pretty unrealistic. |
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Orange Crush
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| 10/22/2013 05:56 PM |
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| let me know when you guys figure this one out |
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huckleberry
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| 10/22/2013 06:35 PM |
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Clean or unclean...
At any point in time, to the victor go the spoils.
Lance certainly had his spoils, and at very great expense to LeMond - financially and personally.
This is Greg's chance to be alone in a small locked room with Lance.
Feast, my friend.
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longslowdistance
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| 10/22/2013 06:44 PM |
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Posted By Frederick Jones on 10/22/2013 06:44 PM
Agree with the doubts about any pro's purity, ever.
But I also acknowledge levels of cheating, and not all cheating is equally wrong. |
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stronz
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| 10/23/2013 09:01 AM |
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| I agree with LSD -- there are degrees of wrongdoing and in LA's case - for me anyway - his least egregious offense is blood doping and epo use. If he had only done that and hadnt been such a pathologic liar prick things would be different, imo. His bigger offenses are the aggressive misrepresentation to the world and most especially the cancer community. Equally bad was the aggressive bullying of anyone and everyone who dared to question his veracity. The scale of the bluster and propagandizing of the lie just elevate him to Madoff-levels of depravity: the books, the lying to his kids about his "career" as a clean rider who just trained harder and wanted it more than everyone else (OK that last one might actually be true) - but at what cost? -- the ruining of other people's careers and reputations, the lying under oath to gain the bonus payouts -- just mind boggling even as a write this and re-remember the whole spectrum of his truly criminal behavior it makes me pissed-off all over. And I wasnt even anywhere near the pro-cycling inner circle -- I can just imagine how utterly incensed LeMond was and obviously still is. And he is completely justified in everything he said in that interview. |
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