Cosmic Kid
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| 04/13/2016 03:55 PM |
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Well, looks like that may be the end fo discs in the peloton...at least for now.
http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/racing/uci-suspends-use-disc-brakes-professional-racing-220931 |
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Keith Richards
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| 04/13/2016 06:08 PM |
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It is his word versus ours. We like our word. We like where we stand and we like our credibility."--Lance Armstrong. |
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longslowdistance
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| 04/13/2016 06:55 PM |
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CP, that is too clever!
Just to play devil's advocate, how certain is it that the rotor was the culprit? |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 04/13/2016 08:47 PM |
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Something isn't lining up with Ventoso's story. He says he never went down and that the injury was sustained when he came into close contact with the bike next to him.
Leaving aside the thought of how he could get that close without bumping the other rider or bike, the injury is on his LEFT leg. How the hell does THAT happen? |
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Dale
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| 04/13/2016 08:50 PM |
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| Who knows in what position the guy he hit was in but that is one nasty gash. I haven't heard the details of the second flesh wound from a rotor in the other incident Ventoso reported. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 04/13/2016 10:08 PM |
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| OK, Seeing all the pics helped....I guess I can see a scenario where this happens now. Rider in front skids / falls of slightly, bike pointing off to the left and leaning down towards Ventoso as he approaches (disc side facing the ground). Ventoso, skids / stops but veering to the right, so his left leg is sliding towards a disc which is now angled up at him...voila, it catches the side if his calf next to his shin and lifts the flap of skin up. |
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stronz
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| 04/14/2016 07:26 AM |
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I am very glad they acted quickly. Interesting to hear some of the otherriders chime in too - Ryder says he was always against them - I guess the riders need to be careful about what they say with respect to sponsors tho.
I was at lbs last weekend and I would say 75% of the road bikes on display have discs in this shop. So there is a asignificant investment that the manufacturers have made and they are clearly pushing this tech out to the public. I wonder how this UCI decision will affect sales - prob not too much. I have never seen the need for discs on the road (but I still dont see the need/benefit of electronic group sets either) - now I understand that being in a highly charged pro peleton is different from riding as I do which is mostly solo or with one or two others. Still the "right now" stopping power and modulation of discs in mtb riding that makes so much sense just doesnt seem needed on the road. I never need that kind of stopping power and am very satisfied with the modulation with my campy brakes and carbon rims. Lastly - every disc equipped set up I have seen is heavier than the same rim brake equipped bike I have seen - and its rotational mass too. So - I say a big meh - didnt care when they were here and dont care if they go bye bye. |
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Orange Crush
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| 04/14/2016 08:25 AM |
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Sure you need that stopping power barreling down a 10 percent grade to a 4 way stop in pooring rain in midst of winter.
This doesn't affect my decision that next winter road bike will have discs (for safetey reasons)or that on summer bike I have no need for them.
Risk of getting cut on your own discs is close to nill, its a peleton issue.
Interestingly the Belgian kid that supposedly also got cut on disc at PR hasn't piped up. |
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Dale
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| 04/14/2016 09:07 AM |
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One word (three actually) Cat. Five. Crit.
What in the heck is going to happen when, not if, there is a massive Cat 4 or 5... or for that matter 3's, pile up and 75 percent of the field is on disc?
It's one thing for the UCI to rethink this but the horses have left the barn as far as USAC is concerned and every knucklehead in the field thinks he can win the field sprint or corner like an F-1 car.
It's going to be a Veg-O-Matic(r) out there and I have zero interest in being the carrot. |
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Keith Richards
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| 04/14/2016 09:48 AM |
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My engineer car buddies and I were discussing this and shrugged our shoulders, "so why not just put a radius on the outside edge of the rotor instead of leaving the raw 90 deg CNC angle.
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stronz
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| 04/14/2016 10:10 AM |
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| Keith it would help thats for sure. be llike a butter knife instead of a steak knife
point being its still a knife |
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longslowdistance
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| 04/14/2016 10:12 AM |
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| Next, wheels with spokes will be banned. Fingers have been caught in spokes and injured. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 04/14/2016 10:59 AM |
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Posted By Orange Crush on 04/14/2016 08:25 AM
Sure you need that stopping power barreling down a 10 percent grade to a 4 way stop in pooring rain in midst of winter.
This doesn't affect my decision that next winter road bike will have discs (for safetey reasons)or that on summer bike I have no need for them.
Risk of getting cut on your own discs is close to nill, its a peleton issue.
Interestingly the Belgian kid that supposedly also got cut on disc at PR hasn't piped up.
The incident with Maes has now been pretty much debunked....there were no riders with discs involved in his crash.
"peleton"? Really? I expect better of you, OC.  |
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Dale
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| 04/14/2016 11:23 AM |
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Posted By Keith Jackson on 04/14/2016 09:48 AM
My engineer car buddies and I were discussing this and shrugged our shoulders, "so why not just put a radius on the outside edge of the rotor instead of leaving the raw 90 deg CNC angle.
Wondered the same thing. Silly to have sharp edges when it's not functional.
Some boat stuff I see is idiotic-- they whack off a 0.090" piece of aluminum and don't deburr the edges. An attorney will have a field day when the builder gets a summons over a sliced up leg. |
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Keith Richards
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| 04/14/2016 11:50 AM |
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| I'm thinking it was bladed spokes myself. More talks with the engineer crew. The rotor just doesn't make sense. |
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