Orange Crush
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| 07/14/2016 03:55 PM |
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There's still a couple problems with decisions.
1. They gave Froome and Porte same time as Mollema. Fine but this was entirely dependent on Mollema getting on with it which was unpredictable. Nor is that part of rules quoted.
2. The jury also ruled that Quintana, Alejandro Valverde (Movistar) and Tejay van Garderen (BMC Racing) would receive the same time as Yates and others chasers who had crossed the line 19 seconds behind Mollema. That saved Quintana who came in further behind. What was that based on? Trek is appealing.
And as Mollema said, what if it was only him who crashed? Different decisions?
It remains a farce no matter what they do or decide.
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longslowdistance
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| 07/14/2016 04:06 PM |
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ASO should give back the 250 swiss francs they fined Froome a few stages back for punching at jerk fan who was waving a flag near his front wheel.
Is running uphill in bike shoes a good prep for a TT the next day? |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 07/14/2016 05:28 PM |
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| OC, I think they took the times and splits at the time of the accident (1K). Both Brailsford and CyclingNews stated this. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 07/14/2016 05:34 PM |
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Quote from Cycling News....
Race officials later reinstated the gaps the trio had on their rivals at the time of the incident |
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Orange Crush
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| 07/14/2016 06:36 PM |
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Posted By Cosmic Kid on 07/14/2016 05:28 PM
OC, I think they took the times and splits at the time of the accident (1K). Both Brailsford and CyclingNews stated this.
don't think so (Cyclingnews often has a lot of writeup that is just plain wrong and this is even contradicted by standings they provide in main article). Below is what I read.
And then came the controversy. The jury ruled that the time differences taken at the line would stand, not at the point of the accident. Mollema crossed at 5:05 behind winner Thomas de Gendt, and the jury ruled to give Froome and Porte the same time even though they finished much further back. The jury also ruled that Quintana, Alejandro Valverde (Movistar) and Tejay van Garderen (BMC Racing) would receive the same time as Yates and others chasers who had crossed the line 19 seconds behind Mollema. That saved Quintana about 20 seconds.
Read more at http://velonews.competitor.com/2016/07/tour-de-france/explainer-what-led-to-that-crazy-crash-on-ventoux_414741#MiE8tDfXWgEgM84X.99 |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 07/14/2016 09:49 PM |
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| Just re-watched the coverage....you are correct....Mollema crossed the line @ 5:05 after De Gendt, so that is the time gap they assigned to Froome and Porte. |
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Gonzo Cyclist
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| 07/15/2016 09:20 AM |
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| any predictions in the TT today? How much time do you think Quintana will lose to Froome? How will Adam Yates fare? |
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79pmooney
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| 07/15/2016 09:31 AM |
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This is where we get to see if Quintana's heart is still in this. He hasn't been riding badly this Tour. Staying at the front, often with little help form teammates, staying out of the wind and basically riding smart. Except for his lapse at the top of the final climb on the first mountain stage.) Yesterday,his strength should have kicked in a few kilometers after the shortened finish. Today he HAS to finish withing 90 seconds of Froome. Withing 30 seconds and maybe Quintana will come to life this next week and show us something. (I'm hoping!)
Sadly (for me), I fear a Froome by two minutes over anyone who matters. He's simply on.
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Gonzo Cyclist
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| 07/15/2016 09:38 AM |
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Ben, if Froome puts two minutes into his rivals, that will be huge!! Sure, lots of mountains to come, as Quintana keeps saying, but two minutes will be hard to make up with how Froome is riding.
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Orange Crush
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| 07/15/2016 10:38 AM |
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A good day for the Orange Crush.
Another bad day for Quintana. And what about rumours of a moto pull yesterday? |
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79pmooney
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| 07/15/2016 10:44 AM |
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OC, I call it a tough day for Quintana, not a bad day. 5'5" and 128 pounds. Finishing 3 minutes offa world class best and 2 off an on fire Froome bad in real wind? Give the little guy a break! (May well end his chances this Tour but it isn't like he didn't show up.)
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Gonzo Cyclist
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| 07/15/2016 10:59 AM |
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I don't know, this is looking more and more like a race for second place................Froome brought his "A" game this year, still a long way to go for sure, but Quintana better start lighting it up before he's five minutes down before the big climbs in the 3rd week
OC, Moto Pull? whoa, had not heard that one, I'm surprised there was no word of Aru's sticky bottle |
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Dale
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| 07/15/2016 11:00 AM |
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Posted By Orange Crush on 07/15/2016 10:38 AM
A good day for the Orange Crush.
Another bad day for Quintana. And what about rumours of a moto pull yesterday?
Not a rumor-- he grabbed hold of the Mavic spare wheel moto and held on.
http://stevetilford.com/2016/07/15/bazaar-tour-stage-mt-ventoux-froome-runningquintana-getting-a-lift/screen-shot-2016-07-15-at-8-08-12-am-copy/ |
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ChinookPass
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| 07/15/2016 11:52 AM |
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Can Mollema catch Froome?
LOL.
But seriously, that was a great TT by the pair of Dutchmen today.
Tough day for France. Uncertainty ahead. I'm a little miffed why photographers were clicking away during the moments of silence. The jersey presentations were an appropriate touch. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 07/15/2016 12:42 PM |
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I'm not too bent out of shape about Quintana grabbing the moto....it was a complete schitt-show at that point, highly congested and mass chaos. It looks to me that he as doing it as a defensive move to protect himself from the moto's movements as much as anything else.
Hardly the level of what Nibali did in the Vuelta.... |
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