Cranky Tom
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| 07/12/2017 03:11 PM |
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I'm not a fan of the unwritten rules. There are just too many variables and too much opportunity for abuse. And Greg Lemond agrees: https://www.yahoo.com/sports/cycling-riders-lost-ability-race-says-lemond-175157871--spt.html
If a rider wants to make and individual decision to wait for a competitor the way Armstrong did with Ulrich then that's up to him, but to make it an "unwritten rule" that applies to the whole peloton is ridiculous. |
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Dale
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| 07/13/2017 06:43 AM |
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Posted By Frederick Jones on 07/11/2017 08:10 PM
Remember the crowds forcing moto full stop running with his broken bike fiasco last year? What if someone was up the road ahead of him?
Yup. It's part of racing just like train crossings in some of the Spring classics.
Break is five minutes up and the field gets stopped at a rail road crossing?
Sucks to be you, guess you should have made the break.
I'm getting tired of the formulaic group rides that passes for racing lately. The local Tuesday evening training race had more excitement this week than most stages in this years Tour. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 07/13/2017 07:37 AM |
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Posted By Dale Dale on 07/13/2017 06:43 AM
Posted By Frederick Jones on 07/11/2017 08:10 PM
Remember the crowds forcing moto full stop running with his broken bike fiasco last year? What if someone was up the road ahead of him?
Yup. It's part of racing just like train crossings in some of the Spring classics.
Break is five minutes up and the field gets stopped at a rail road crossing?
Sucks to be you, guess you should have made the break.
I'm getting tired of the formulaic group rides that passes for racing lately. The local Tuesday evening training race had more excitement this week than most stages in this years Tour.
I would help significantly if Froome's rivals would stop doing the work for SKY.... |
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Orange Crush
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| 07/13/2017 08:50 AM |
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| The train crossing is an exception and there's a written rule for it. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 07/13/2017 10:19 AM |
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| More bullschitt waiting today....SKY rider overshoots a turn at the bottom of a descent, Froome follows him and everyone waits. Such crap....Froome made a mistake. It wasn't a mechanical, it wasn't something outside his control....he fooked up and should be expected to suffer the consequences of his mistake. |
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Orange Crush
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| 07/13/2017 10:33 AM |
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| Yup complete hogwash. |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 07/13/2017 03:13 PM |
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Seriously....what is next? "Oh, the yellow jersey is having a bad day. Let's wait for him....he has clearly been stronger than us in the race, so we shouldn't capitalize on his jour sans."
FFS.... |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 07/16/2017 11:15 PM |
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While ultimately fruitless, I was glad to see AG2R did not wait for Froome when he flatted today. The race was, and had been, in full flight by then. Waiting for him would have been complete BS.
And I'll be honest...when it happened, my initial reaction was that Froome was faking a mechanical in an attempt to get them to slow down. |
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mondonico
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| 07/17/2017 11:57 AM |
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Unwritten rules are BS. IMHO How in the world would the race have waited when it was spread all over the route. This group goes, this group stops.
I would love to see these races go on with out radios and then you can throw all the BS out. You race to win and if things happen you just deal with it. How your luck goes is how it goes. You ave a flat, a mechanical, to over cook a turn. It is all part of racing. I can think of no other race in anyother sport where anyone waits if someone has a problem. I thought Sundays stage was one of the most exciting stages I have seen period. Just racing from the start. And what did Froome do when he got back to the group. Near the end of the stage he attacked just to let them think over the rest day. I am looking forward to the next two stages. I hope they are classics with so many so close and the last week everyone cooked. I have tried to think of a comparison but most sports aren't multi day events. But how about the olympic decatalon. Whould they stop for the leader on the 2nd day if his shoe came untied in the last event the 1500 meters???
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Spud
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| 07/17/2017 03:08 PM |
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longslowdistance
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| 07/17/2017 03:19 PM |
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| No radios? Amem! |
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Nick A
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| 07/19/2017 02:31 PM |
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I guess to me, that's the whole thing about unwritten rules. It's impossible to write a rule for everything, so you'd hope people would have class coupled with common sense. Run off the road due to overcooking a turn? (In car racing they call that "running out of talent".) Too bad. Have a wheel collapse when you chose to have some insanely light craziness. Again too bad. Get taken out by a crazed fan running up a climb...well then attacking ain't classy. Just my two cents.
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79pmooney
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| 07/27/2017 09:00 PM |
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Back to Dan Martin. The class act of this year's Tour and the winner in every sense but the results:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/dan-martin-diagnosed-with-two-fractured-vertebrae-after-tour-de-france-top-10/
The guy no one waited for. That 77 seconds would have put him in a completely different place. (Nevermind that he only lost 77 seconds after that crash!) We never heard him whine for sympathy. He just kept racing. That mountain stage (day after his crash? two days?) where he went to the front and just rode everyone to the bone seated the whole time - afterwards he said that he knew he couldn't get out of the saddle with his back injuries so he had no way of defending against Bardet, Froome and the rest in the final kilometers of the climb. If he wanted to stay on pace, he had no choice but to make it so damn hard no one had anything left! Wow!
Now we know he had two broken vertebrae in his back. Again, wow! I don't know if he can win a GC, but the man can ride and he has a huge heart. He's got me as a fan.
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longslowdistance
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| 07/28/2017 07:05 AM |
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| Nice to have the post tour story be about bravery and toughness and not about b samples |
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Cosmic Kid
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| 07/28/2017 08:38 AM |
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Posted By Frederick Jones on 07/28/2017 07:05 AM
Nice to have the post tour story be about bravery and toughness and not about b samples
It hasn't even been a week....give it time.  |
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