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SideBySide

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11/09/2019 06:21 PM
I'll vote for a dead cat in a box before I'd vote for Trump. Warren or Sanders won't get the big issues through Congress, but won't isolate us from the world.
Dale

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11/11/2019 02:32 PM
The E.C. rewards small states two ways-- disproportionately favors them in the presidential election AND in congressional representation. I'm ok with the latter but not the former. I want my vote to count whether I'm voting for a dogcatcher, congress(wo)man, senator, or president.

Like SxS, it won't matter who gets the Democratic nomination my vote for them is a forgone conclusion.
And a pox on the house of anyone who votes 3rd party or runs as such.

Cosmic Kid

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11/11/2019 06:12 PM
And a pox on the house of anyone who votes 3rd party or runs as such


I’ll agree with that if you are in a swing state. In IL, I could vote 3rd Party (and did in 2016) because IL is going Blue, no matter what.

However, as noted, I am voting for the Dem candidate in 2020, no matter what. I want to officially record my opposition to Trump.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
longslowdistance

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11/11/2019 08:16 PM
Millions will join you.
That won't be enough unless the Dems get it right. Yours to blow, Dems.
Dale

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11/11/2019 09:04 PM
Posted By Frederick Jones on 11/11/2019 08:16 PM
Millions will join you.
That won't be enough unless the Dems get it right. Yours to blow, Dems.


...as they did in 2016 by icing out Sanders and going with the throughly unlikeable Hillary whose very friends can barely tolerate her.
longslowdistance

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11/11/2019 09:17 PM
Yes, Bernie likely would have beaten Trump in 2016. But not in 2020. Next round Dems need a likable or semi likable who won't scare the centrists in a small handful of midwestern states. Love it or hate it, there it is. Steve Bullock fits the bill. Bloomberg? Don't know. Depends on how he presents himself, how he runs in those center right swing states that love their guns and are leery of abortion but not totally opposed, and don't particularly like Trump but have been willing to look past his behavior. All the rest is very important, but just noise in the big picture.
Orange Crush

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11/11/2019 10:56 PM
Dang this sounds serious...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/jimmy-carter-in-hospital-ahead-of-procedure-to-relieve-pressure-on-his-brain-1.5356027
Cosmic Kid

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11/12/2019 07:12 AM
I am hoping that the fact the waited until this AM to do the procedure indicates that it is is not too serious. You’d think that if it was immediately life-threatening, they would have done it as an emergency procedure right then.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
longslowdistance

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11/12/2019 10:09 AM
It is serious.

Former Mass Gov Deval Patrick is considering getting in the Dem race. He was governor of Mass a few years back.
huckleberry

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11/12/2019 10:17 AM
I do find it interesting how some of you state your opinions as though fact ; )

Your mommies loved you too much.
longslowdistance

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11/12/2019 12:59 PM
In my opinion, Deval Patrick was Governor of Mass.
longslowdistance

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11/12/2019 12:59 PM
I take your point, but please avoid personal insults on this forum.
Cosmic Kid

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11/12/2019 03:03 PM
Posted By Frederick Jones on 11/12/2019 10:09 AM
It is serious. .


I probably phrased that poorly. yes, i realize it is serious...however, the fact that they admitted him yesterday but were not planning on a procedure until this AM perhaps indicates that it was not an immediate emergency as in "Get him in the OR, NOW!!!"
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Cosmic Kid

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11/12/2019 04:54 PM
Carter reportedly recovering with "no complications" from his surgery.

Good news.
Just say "NO!" to WCP!!!!
Orange Crush

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11/13/2019 08:52 PM
Hear hear...

"I don't agree with Warren's vision for our health care system, but I admire that she has clearly and credibly laid out that vision and that she sought out the opinions of those who may disagree with her to provide independent validation of her numbers. That's the kind of rigor we should expect from all of our presidential candidates."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/13/perspectives/elizabeth-warren-medicare-for-all-taxes-middle-class/index.html

Rigor sadly isn't going to win the election but it should be one of the main measuring sticks for any candidate. Few would pass.
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