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longslowdistance

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12/06/2020 08:25 PM
Thanks for the links. The details of coastal peoples is much more detailed, I'll speculate that's the most accurate because these were the first European contacts. Were the inland peoples in flyover country less diverse before contact? Or changed by European diseases before the western invasion?
Orange Crush

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12/06/2020 09:16 PM
Perhaps mostly it just reflects the dedicated efforts of the particular search and where it led him. If I look at my own neck of the woods, he managed excellent coverage in Vancouver Island region but in Greater Vancouver area where it reads Squamish there should be about 10 other names minimum. I also notice that New Mexico has much denser coverage due to the pueblo heritage (well worth a visit). A work is progress and I am sure there’s a lot of gaps that could be filled in through a collective effort.
Nick A

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12/12/2020 06:47 PM
There's a book called "The Pueblo Revolt" that goes over what happened in NM. What's unusual about NM, is that most Native Americans in what is now the US were either slaughtered, or relocated to Oklahoma, the former "Indian Territory". The Navajo Nation and the pueblos of NM are different, in that, they are on smaller versions of their original territories, so even though there has been a lot of suffering, there is still an direct lineage of the people and the land that goes back millennia.

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Orange Crush

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12/12/2020 08:30 PM
Yes those forced relocations were insane.

Here in BC tribes are still on their traditional lands in fact most of the province is unceded land. Lots of active treaty negotiations and with UN declaration combined with more willing courts this is actually a good time for First Nations to use leverage they now have which they never did before. Interesting times.
longslowdistance

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12/12/2020 09:05 PM
And irony to follow: fracking and/or casinos with mucho $$ or preservation of purportedly sacred land. Or a bit of both. Interesting to observe.
Orange Crush

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12/13/2020 12:24 PM
Self governance requires an income stream. If a casino is what it takes then all more power to them. Surprised about the fracking. But it’s probably similar to our Alberta counterparts. If your rights are going to be trampled on by oil and gas companies you might as well run it yourself, get the income from it and try to run it more responsible. That also the case local where FN are running commercial but sustainable forestry ops and fish farms (they provide the leadership on making these land based).
79pmooney

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12/13/2020 02:53 PM
I have longed admired the irony of the Native Americans making income off us whites by offering us addictive vices. First, tobacco, a substance they used but in far from additive manner (but they never profited by it). Now gambling. Considering the alcohol (and diseases and genocide) we offered them, fair play!

Now Oregon has just voted on making peyote legal or at least, not illegal. I voted for it but have mixed feelings. If we see a run in peyote, a lot of damage will occur on land that cannot sustain it. I suspect sacred lands will be trampled and the Native Americans who have been using peyote forever may be effectively denied access to it after treating the land it grew on as a gift to be treasured.
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